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12/11/17
Ideas to get you through Winter !
Make a trip to one of the better stores around, J& H. Outlet in Oakdale or White Water Outfitters in the Hamptons by the Shinnecock canal. They have already begun a series of sales and internet specials during the Holidays and more should be on the way as well. The store has expanded to encompass three stores and they have many foul weather gear items and other warm items for winter fishing to go along with the usual tee shirts and other apparel items. The best part of this store though has to be the selection of rods at great prices and the wholesale closeouts you can find there. They have also designed a line of rods made of Omni- directional graphite for the inshore N.Y. fisherman. Their Reel selections and counter space has increased by 4 times what they used to have and the selection of braided line and artificials, plastics, terminal gear etc. will boggle the mind. It is a fun way to spend a cold day off. Make sure to check them out online at www.jandh.com and sign up for their emails which include video reviews by the staff on different reels.
Want to stay a bit closer, a trip to the Great south Bay Tackle company in Lindenhurst will definitely result in some fine buck tails and some nice rigs and goodies. John brought many items down to one of our meetings and they were well received. Look for Asgard Jigs at Fred Chall Marine supply and other stores as well. John can also customize jigs for you for whatever applications you need them for. Tell him you met him at our club and I’m sure he’ll take great care of you. He’s on face book as well at https://www.facebook.com/john.boggio.94
Another great option to kill a few hrs is a trip into the Walt Whittman area in Melville to visit the Field n Streams store which is connected to Dicks Sporting goods on rt 110 . This is a big improvement to an already fine fishing department in the Dicks stores. You can find almost anything you could imagine here and the prices seem ok on reels, rods and terminal gear as well as gulp and bucktails. Field and Stream apparel seems high priced though so keep an eye out for advertised sales if your looking for clothing or yeti coolers and merchandise.
ROAD TRIP?
For the traveling types and those of us who sweet water fish in the winter , how about spending the weekend heading to Bass Pros Outdoors world store In Utica NY? We’ve all seen the catalog, but going through one of these stores is a must do!
About the Store
While you'll find a huge selection of outdoor gear, Bass Pro Shops stores are also part museum, art gallery, antique store, aquarium, education, conservation and entertainment center. The entire store is a tribute to the vast diversity of the Central New York landscape, its history and the culture of its people. Hand-painted murals from renowned artists depict scenes of the Adirondack Park. State and record wildlife mounts are displayed alongside local period prints depicting early New Yorkers enjoying sporting adventures. For the best in hunting, camping and fishing gear, shop Bass Pro, your Utica, New York sporting goods store. The Bass Pro Shops Outpost in Utica is a leader among Central NY outfitters offering more for people who appreciate the wilderness. You find mostly freshwater tackle but the rest of the experience should make the trip worthwhile in itself. Of course there are always the numerous fishing flee markets and the sportsman show schedule to keep an eye on if you like to get out for the day and see if you can find a few bargains. The club will be once again manning a table at the NYSF Sportsmans Forum and Auction on Presidents weekend, be sure to stop by and say hello!
(any member who would like to work the booth for us please email me to discuss )
Well that’s about all I got for now, good luck with any fishing adventures and be safe this winter! Hope 2018 is your fishiest year yet! Maybe Ill see you at the shops!
Mike Bobetsky
Blackfish Rule the Fall!
It’s the time of year again when we start to experience some of the best fishing the north east has to offer. While stripers and blues harass baitfish off the beach, true sharpies hit the bottom fishing grounds in search of falls smartest foe, the blackfish! In my eyes blackfish are worthy of the prestige that grouper and other game fish receive in the southern states. They are the most fun to fight, and one of the hardest fish to consistently hook. Finding prime locations to fish relies heavily on water temps, and how they influence migrations from northern areas south. In early October when the season starts, the shallower rock piles and wrecks will be the main areas to concentrate on. The water in the shallows cools off faster, and thus will get the togs going strong. My first three weeks of the season often find me on the Rockaway Reef. During the time I had my boat in Jamaica bay, I would work that reef until early November. From then on I would try to get to ab reef, or go to highlands reef, where the water temps weren’t as cold as at Rockaway. Those reefs are a bit deeper, thus the temp will be again more to the togs liking. By the time Dec. comes, traditionally the deep water wrecks and 17 fathoms, become the focal points. The Season will close December 15th .
Ok, so now you have an idea about water temps, and the migration of the tog as the winter draws near. The question now is do you have a clue as to what to look for when anchoring? We all know that large pieces look really great on our color machines, and if we were the only ones on the water, they would always be first choice. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case. Most of the higher, larger pieces are worked over fairly quickly with the amount of fisherman on the water on any given day during the season. I like to find the smaller pieces that are still big enough for me to get my boat on, but don’t look like a mountain on my screen. These areas always produce, as they get passed by more times than not. I choose to grapnel do to the logistics of only having myself on board to do the anchoring. Typically, when there is a good breeze, you can easily judge the wind and which direction to anchor in. NO wind means making a practice drift to determine the affects of the current on your boat. I hit the mob button and let the boat drift. The direction I head back to the M.O.B. is the direction I drop the anchor in. With a grapnel, you want to lay it down straight as possible, without twisting it around the main line and chain. Once the hook catches I like to pay out enough scope to hopefully position myself over the piece I want to try, and still retain its holding power should I bounce around out there. This is possible to do on artificial reefs do to the amount of rubble surrounding the many pieces I choose to fish. On a wreck, you will have to do stop on the piece, drop the hook into the structure and tighten up as much as you can . There won’t be much to grapnel onto forward of the piece. With two capable people on board to anchor, definitely go with a double anchor danforth set up on a wreck. This will enable you to fish the entire piece by adjusting the two lines. It also is the best way to not break free from the spot your on.
Our boat is now anchored in the right depth range, on a piece that most all other boats on the reef passed over. What’s next? Rigging up of course. I normally stick with a two hook rig. I have discovered the strongest way to attach the hooks is to loop it over the leader by bending the leader and placing the snells loop over it bringing the hook back through the leaders loop. (Go with 50lb or better), then use a sinker to tie an over hand knot behind the loop to hold it in place. I have had dropper loops snap under the pressure of a large blackfish, more times than I care to admit. This alternate way of rigging has yet to let me down. Hooks generally should be 2-3 inches up off the sinker, tops. In special instances, such as on the north shore wrecks. Many time a higher hook placement is better, around 5 or 6 inches up. This is do to heavy silt that covers the wrecks, and thus your sinkers as well. You want your baits where the fish can see them. When using braid, tie on a 10 ft shot of 50 lb Ande line to your 50-60 lb braid with a double uni knot, or a properly tied Albright knot . I have found it much easier to tie my rigs directly to the top shot. A small overhand knot just above the sinker acts as a quick release should I get really hung. It is then a snap to re- tie. I carry a small spool of top shot mono with me on all trips. For hooks, the new choice the last 3 years or so has been the octopus style Gamakatsu or Owner hooks. There are other Japanese octopus hooks, but they all have different tolerances, and some bend out quicker than others. I still like the old standard Virginia style hooks. I have used both types of hooks and don’t see the advantage to the higher priced hooks, especially when losing 3 set ups in an hour isn’t uncommon. I also like that I can more confidently sharpen the Virginia hooks, they aren’t hollow to the point that it will weaken the hook if you sharpen it. Newer laser sharpened and grinded point hooks are too weak to re-sharpen them once they get dulled. I won’t risk a lost bulldog to a weak hook, if you do use those laser points, chuck them if they ping over or dull.
In the fall, crab is king when blackfishing. You can always try to find less common asian crabs, or white crabs. The ever annoying rock crabs (calicos) are great as well as the incredible hermit crab. For the purpose of the weekend angler, nothing is wrong with using green crabs. They are more easily available, and they aren’t passed by if the fish are there. Experiment with which color greens are working best on any given day. Many times the orange belly crabs will out produce the Green belly crabs. Some days the fish will want the crab shell less and legless. Other days just the opposite. If you feel like using a whole crab, crack that shell with the sinker. With half crab baits, run the hook in the leg socket out the other side of the crab. I like to leave the hook slightly exposed in the yellow fluid of the crab. With a whole crab in one leg socket, and out another is best. If the crab is large, a second hook should be used on the other side the same way. When you get that first peck, be patient. No other fish can cause the barber to lose business like the blackfish! When he bounces the tip hard, hit him one time, then hold on and crank if you are slow to react, you will lose the battle! Drag settings for reels with braid must be kept lighter that the traditional tight settings of the mono filled reels and fiberglass rods we grew up using. I like to keep the drag set to a point appropriate to the rods rating, as compared to the braid stated rating. 50lb. braid has a tendency to break over 65lbs, most rods rated that high cant sustain more than a third of 50lbs line. So I keep the drag setting tight but limited to 16lbs max, most times a bit less to be on the safe side. You don’t want to snap a graphite pole as the line will outlast the graphite if you pull on it hard enough. Between the top shot and the lighter drag settings, you will have enough shock absorption to ensure your fish doesn’t rip the hook right through his lip or ruin your high priced arsenal!
Once you land your first keeper blackfish of the year, the fever will consume you, and your thoughts will be with MR. Tog the rest of the season. They make good meals, and offer the savvy angler a very satisfying feeling knowing you have succeeded in besting the smartest inshore fish we have. Get out there and get yours today!
Tight lines, Mike Bobetsky
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SUMMER TIME PASSSING US BY WHAT TO DO!
UPDATED:
8/16/19
Our summer fishing has had its ups and downs and it seems to have taken forever for the local fluke fishing to turn on a bit. The last few weekends have shown some improvements with more keepers taken at the area reefs and occassionally offshore at the cholera and Angler banks areas. Look for this uptick in activity to hit a crescendo in the next 2 weeks as the water is starting to cool a bit, days are getting shorter, and we seem to have fronts coming through somewhat regularly. Dragging big baits shouldnt be overlooked as many days see good action on the bait. Right now most large fish are still falling to gulp bait combos on bucktails and teasers, but that could change real soon as they feed for the trip offshore.
Seabass season will be in focus as we are allowecd to keep 7 as of Sept 1st, if you can find the bigger fish. Speaking of those bigger fish, they seem to be prefering drifted baits, both gulp and bait combos on teasers and large natural baits alone on hi lo rigs.
The porgies are reving up now as well with many nice ones hitting drifted baits for fluke with reckless abandon. If you really want to score on these try the McCallister grounds and the Rockaway reef area fishing on the hook as they are indeed stacking up now . As a bonus Rockaway Reef and shallow structure areas like the Rhoda wreck are holding triggerfish now and there are reports of some in reynolds also! Triggers are great fun and great eats as well! Smaller hooks with clam baits is the way to go if targetting them and fish light with a light drag, theyll run you and take line making for a great fight! The cocktail blues are back and its no wonder with all the bunker in the area and lets hope the fall bassing will be good as there are tons of sandeels offshore a bit and that will turn on a great bight when the bass start to go back south. Lets not forget to be conservative with what we take for the table with the groundfish and our club has that catch and release contest for the striped bass also so they can be released if your not looking for a meal. Fall should end off with some decent blackfishing come late October as Rockaway Reef and the shallower wrecks should be cool enough this year for a good early bight. The time is now for good fishing to begin! We waited a long time & unless you love Tuna trolling at the Coimbra , we haven't had a whole lot to be pumped up about this season locally (since the spring bass run anyway)
Tight Lines
Mike Bobetsky
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